stu: ahh that machine. Don't you think that something named stallman deserves to be an Alpha? :-) jgoerzen: no, actually, I'd prolly be more inclined to name a 386 with 4 megs of ram and a 40 meg hard drive stallman. with a big fat case that makes tons of noise and rattles the floor * Knghtbrd falls to the floor holding his sides laughing and.. double-height hard drive